Saturday, October 11, 2008

Anime World Order Show # 73 - Never Suck a Dead Bird's Bootyhole

This episode probably sets some sort of AWO record for going off-topic, so if you find yourself wondering "when are they going to actually talk about anime" then you are encouraged to consult the timecodes. Gerald reviews Witchblade (which he repeatedly paid money to own), Daryl reviews Strait Jacket (probably the newest thing he's ever done), and Clarissa reviews Moyashimon.

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And since we forgot to throw the links in last time, Daryl was a guest on Destroy All Podcasts DX and talked about Macross Frontier. The conversation took a while, so it was split into two parts entitled Side A and Side B. Daryl was also on the Greatest Movie EVER! podcast yet again, this time to talk about Doomsday.

Intro (0:00 - 32:45)
Since every single anime podcast out there talks a whole lot about videogames, we thought we'd give it a shot ourselves for a few minutes. But as it turns out, none of us are actually PLAYING anything despite owning decades worth of console/PC games, right up to the present. Email-wise, we talk about the scarcity of the Imaginasian DVDs, Helen McCarthy reports on how her Osamu Tezuka exhibit turned out, and a Japanese listener offers us some additional clarification regarding our earlier comments made during the review of The Girl Who Leapt Through Time by directing us to a Japanese language interview with the director, Mamoru Hosoda. We also plug our appearances at SITACon (which at the time of writing is happening RIGHT NOW) as well as EXPCon (the panel creation for which begins immediately now that this podcast is out, and then Otaku USA deadlines are immediately after THAT).

Let's News! (32:45 - 1:12:09)
Cartoon Network has bid farewell to the Toonami block after all these years, which puts us on a quite lengthy tangent regarding the television industry, advertising, and our disdain for same. Not that we didn't already know it, but Vertical's manga sales for non-Tezuka works aren't exactly setting the world on fire. Additionally, some of the old Bandai Visual titles that were scheduled to be released at absolutely outrageous prices are now slated for releases with somewhat less outrageous prices, and the Moyashimon manga has been licensed.

Promo: Rocket Punch! The Podcast (1:12:09 - 1:13:22)
Rocket Punch! is a podcast about videogames and cartoons, and some of those cartoons are anime! What is also just for the record: Inspector Gadget's no robot. Inspector Gadget is a cyborg.

Review: MILFBlade Witchblade (1:13:22 - 1:37:25)
Now for a Gonzo show that, like every single other Gonzo show ever made, completely changes its focus a few episodes in. Gerald takes a look at a show for which the best thing he can say about it is that "he didn't dislike it for the reasons he thought he would." In a revolutionary move, Gerald ends up disliking the show for completely DIFFERENT reasons then what he thought originally. But we know why you're here: screen caps!

Hey boys and girls, what does this scene from the opening of Witchblade remind you of? Think hard...
The requisite "butt blood" shot, so often seen in anime. Remember this is still the opening sequence, so this show knows how to hold an audience.

This is roughly 10 seconds into the first episode. Usually the red cord has a very specific meaning in Japan. Here I'm pretty sure is NO exception.
That's David Riley-level ass there!
Amaha has got junk pretty much in the hood AND the trunk. Erm, MASANE Amaha to be specific.
Here's the pervert machine that is the predominant enemy in the first part of the show, complete with...
...pumping pistons, which are completely NOT sexual.
It's hard to see in this screencap, but I promise you there's a robot dick about to meet its end.
Theeeeere we go!
And here is where we finally see what we were paying for, at least for the first disc.
And that very important highlighting. Makes me wonder if any animators got in trouble for not putting ENOUGH highlighting in?
I PROMISE you that is NOT pubic hair on her crotch...I think.
And I PROMISE you that is, umm, robot blood? Eh, whatever...
Actually, at this point, you can think it's whatever you want! Also note the very slutty tongue piercing. Don't lie, they have only ONE use!

Promo: Anime HACK (1:37:25 - 1:37:50)
Jason Michael is a man with two first names that was a cool bro for attending at least one of our Saturday night panels at AWA, and since he emailed us his promo, we are now playing it! They are a podcast that for over a year has reviewed titles such as Rozen Maiden, Love Hina, and other detestable titles so we don't have to! Actually, they're not all detestable. If Jason's reading this, two bits of advice: one, don't have your embedded Pickle Players auto-load the MP3s, because when you have multiple podcast posts per page it ends up downloading like 5 files at once thus slowing down the connection of anyone who checks the site. Two, when you mix in music, turn the volume WAY DOWN.

Promo: Pop Rocks and Soda (1:37:50 - 1:39:30)
That is RIGHT. Two promos one after the other (due to errant pasting). This is quite obviously done in one take with little to no script, but with the US presidential election mere days away, we thought it best to do everything in our power to encourage other podcasts to create attack ads against us which we will then run ON THIS VERY PODCAST. This was actually sent to us six months ago, but instead of sending an MP3 they sent us a Garage Band project. All of us use Windows! If you're not entirely sure what this podcast is about based on the promo, here is their Myspace page.

Review: Strait Jacket (1:39:30 - 2:03:50)
For once in his life, Daryl reviews a title that just came out. Strait Jacket is the latest "short OAV edited together to form a movie" from Manga Video, which is quite the miracle considering that it's 2008 and OAVs are hardly made any more. Everything about this feels like a typical 90s OAV production, which in this day and age is like an oasis in the desert. This will be airing on the Sci-Fi Channel this month as part of their Ani-Monday programming block. Its running time is 75 minutes, and while we'd like to hope that means it'd air in a 90 minute block after commercials, based on what we just said in the news segment we wouldn't be surprised if they ran 45 minutes of commercials in there.

Promo: Spiraken Manga Review (2:03:50 - 2:04:33)
Ed Chavez better watch his back because he's not the only manga-centric podcast on the block no mo'! May-san and Xan (what about Xzar? Either his voice is ambrosia or he's the alpha and omega) get bonus points from us for immersing themselves into just manga rather than manga plus anime [plus videogames] or what have you. However, those bonus points are REVOKED due to the fact that they reviewed Chibi Vampire AND Rosario+Vampire. So the only bonus points they get to keep are the ones they got for saying we are awesome.

Review: Moyashimon: Tales of Agriculture (2:04:33 - 2:24:20)
As the voicemails for this episode demonstrate, we're all a bunch of egotists. Clarissa reviews the entirely too short TV series Moyashimon, which is about going to agricultural college and getting so constantly shitfaced that you can perpetually see bizarre giant yet cute versions of bacteria all around you. Judging from Florida A&M attendees, this is a perfectly accurate portrayal of agricultural college life. The anime has yet to be licensed, but the manga release is impending thanks to Del Rey. Watch and learn all about the joys of fermentation!
The many microbes of Moyashimon. Aspergillus Oryzae, Japan's national micro-organism, is the little yellow guy front and center.


Behold, the joys of kiviak.


Closing (2:24:20 - 2:28:55)
It was not until WARP Anime's PAC report that it dawned on us that Christian is in fact the chair of PAC. We figured Mara was in charge of everything, just like how she's in charge of everything else BA-DA-BING! Next time on AWO, we're taking Spiraken's words to heart and reviewing only manga titles. Gerald is reviewing the Vertical release of Osamu Tezuka's Dororo, Daryl is reviewing the greatest otaku tale ever told aka Ressentiment, and Clarissa's shooting you up with Part 4 of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.


96 comments:

Anonymous said...

Yeah you showed that clown Daryl.

Louie said...

Gutted that I completely missed the Osama Tezuka season last month. Had no idea something like that was happening at the Barbican... Ah well, I'll be sure tp catch the anniversary weekend in January 09.

Anime HACK said...

Yo, thanks for playing it.
And thanks Daryl for the advice, see, im REALLY lazy, so... thats a big part of why the volume and shit is really loud or something. But, I take the advice and most likely i will use it, so thanks guys.

Peace

Anime HACK said...

OH YEAH!
one more thing,
great episode guys!
Keep it up

VZ said...

Due to curiosity, I just read the first volume of Ressentiment. Thanks but no thanks. It's nice to know that at least I'm not that terrible of an otaku and I'm quite close but I think I have some resemblance of sanity left. That and I'm going to start an online course to change career paths.

It's also interesting you brought about the notion of how in modern society, there's just WAY too much competition for your time. The amount of non licensed mecha shows I downloaded, I don't know if I'll ever get to viewing them all by the end of the year.

One more thing. Did you know that Guy Double Target is getting a U.S. DVD release? The best in science FRICTION. Wow ADV, you're sure hitting hard times.

exedore said...

It's been explained to me by those living in Area 11 that they don't do 5.1 very often over there because of space limitations and respect for neighbours in tight quarters: the more speakers you have the more likely you are to be pointing them at someone else's flat through the paper walls.

And Helen was right, the Lion Books were fecking incredible.

Andrew said...

I didn't talk a whole lot on the Frontier podcast because I was tired from work and whenever Jeremy faces off against Daryl, every gets to experience the epic podcast rivalry.

YotaruVegeta said...

@ the title:

??? !!!!

Alex D. said...

Guess Uncle Yo's got a vendetta against Daryl now

Scab said...

About advertising during anime in Japan vs in the US; there are actually multiple commercial breaks in Japan as well, not just at the eyecatch. The typical flow is something like:

OP
1m30s advertising
First portion of the show
1m30s advertising (eyecatch)
Second portion of the show
1m30s advertising
ED
1m30s advertising
Next episode preview

Some stations may do slightly longer breaks by skipping the one before the ED (fairly common) or depending on how long the commercials *between* shows are (the show + commercials are generally speaking to amount to a 30min block of time) but the above format is pretty consistent whatever you're watching. If you can get your hands on some .ts or .m2ts raws these are usually the more or less untouched broadcast, i.e. with commercial breaks still included.

I personally don't have a big problem with the Japanese approach as it at no point interferes with the show the way a popup at the bottom or breaks during the two portions do. Also, if you're not terribly interested in rewatching the ED for every episode and can live without a 5-10 second preview, it only amounts to two short commercial breaks at unintrustive times.

Adding to this, quite a lot of the commercials tend to be anime related, i.e. about DVD releases, merchandise, games, magazines or other anime shows. It's not all fast food chains and tampons.

Tim Eldred said...

In the time since I started working in "telly" (1996) I've watched advertising time slowly erode the space in which we have to tell a story.

Back then, the running length was a solid 22 minutes sans OP and ED. We never did eyecatches or next-ep previews, because the common wisdom was that eyecatches were unnecessary and previews were pointless since syndicators didn't want the obligation of running episodes in order. But that's old news.

In the time since, the length has been adjusted and re-adjusted several times, getting down as low as 18 minutes. Think of it; 12 minutes out of 30 devoted to NOT telling a story. One show I was on (can't remember which one now; might have been MTV's Spider-Man) drifted into the 17-minute zone but then drifted back out before too much damage could be done.

The most common format (which was already well-established when I got into the game) is to have 2 commercial breaks, which divides up an episode into three acts. A less common format (applied to several Nickelodeon shows) is a single commercial break dividing two self-contained segments. I can't think of a single show that uses this format to tell one full-length story.

Anyway, this is why I boycott ALL anime on television no matter how alluring; my sensibilities run 100% against the reformatting of a show from single-break to double-break. First off, you can't do this without cutting or compressing content, and secondly, it disrupts the flow of a story as intended by its creators. As for the network logos and on-screen promos during a show, I only have one word: unconscionable.

So as long as alternatives still exist, I feel no need to seek out my anime on TV.

That said, if anyone knows of shows that are NOT being tampered with as described above, I'm happy to hear about them.

YotaruVegeta said...

Daryl, I don't believe that you haven't seen Desert Punk. Sunabozu does, in fact, turn out to be a bad guy, or at least a big asshole, in the end of the show.

Cute twist, but not really a good show.

wildarmsheero said...

Oh, thanks for reminding me about the new Cobra. If my Japanese was badass enough I'd try my hand at subbing it. But my Japanese isn't good at all, so :(

For some reason I thought Straight Jacket was some kind of psychological thriller. I dunno why.

And I'd like to put forward that Yin (and all the resulting fanart of her trying to smile) was the best part of Darker Than Black. Well, Yin and the show's storyboarding. The rest of it was horrible.

Anonymous said...

Daryl,

I just listened to the DX podcast on which you talked about Macross Frontier. How can you NOT like Ranka Lee? I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. Ranka Lee is cute and lovable. Sheryl is a bitch and a slut.

phildmonkey said...

Thanks for playing our promo guys. I can't wait to grab a copy of the Black Jack manga. To elaborate on that Inspector Gadget comment, Gadget was never given a backstory to elaborate on this fact. Unless you count the live action movie. But who ever would do that?

nj said...

I've also wondered why Orguss O2 wasn't simply called Orguss Alternative...there is still a small link with the original, somewhere, but its one I'd rather forget because the show works much better without it. O2 definitely has more mainstream appeal, but Orguss had a certain charm...including an ending which made me brainstorm for a couple of painfully long hours.

Speaking of Toonami...at least you guys had a good decade's worth of entertainment there. We only had the Toonami block around here for about half of that time and CN couldn't decide what the heck to do with the thing before quietly killing it last year. I sort of envy you, but in a positive way.

Yay for the ATX love, definitely the superior SRW OG path.

I must watch Moyashimon at some point. Adding it to the endless list.

Lest I forget...Casshern Sins is awesome. It's almost like Mega Man and Saint Seiya all rolled into one, except darker. And hopefully with a story that goes somewhere.

-NJ

Josh said...

Very entertaining show as usual. Thanks.

Dustin said...

"Ranka Lee is cute and lovable. Sheryl is a bitch and a slut."

Wait...were we watching the same show? As much as I want to start listing all the things I couldn't stand about Ranka, I'd rather not turn AWO's comment page into a Sheryl vs. Ranka flame war, so I'll just say I agree with Daryl and move on to matters actually related to the podcast.

This fall's crop of anime includes more quality than I originally imagined it would. Sure, you've still got your crappy fanservice shows (I'm looking at you, Rosario + Vampire; that catchy OP is wasted on you) and bizarre fansubbing choices (Eleven groups working on Tales of the Abyss and six on Toradora!, but none for Tytania and Hokuto no Ken? What the hell?!), but there seem to be some diamonds in the rough. Gundam 00 started its second season with a bang, Casshern: Sins is looking promising, and I remain cautiously optimistic for Ga-Rei -zero-. I just hope none of these shows go into train-wreck mode like Code Geass did.

Regarding the death of Toonami, I wasn't all that surprised. I loved it for what it was when I was younger, but hated it for what it became. After we heard the news, my best friend and I watched all those snazzy promos (like the Outer Space one that Clarissa mentioned) that they used to air and soaked in all the glorious nostalgia. Ah, yes, those were the days when I watched DBZ, Sailor Moon, Outlaw Star, Gundam Wing, G Gundam, and Trigun; I'll always be grateful to Cartoon Network for introducing me to those shows. What's really sad is that Toonami might have been as good today as it was back then if it hadn't been criminally mishandled. And now Adult Swim is suffering from similar problems. Brilliant!

Anyway, great work as usual, AWO. Gerald's segment had me chuckling consistently throughout, Daryl's segment gave me something new to check out, and Clarissa's segment, as her manga reviews often do, left me wondering what the hell I just listened to. In a good way.

Dustin said...

I just realized I said that Clarissa reviewed a manga, when it was actually a TV show. I listened to the whole episode less than 24 hours ago, so that should give you an idea of how crummy my memory is. All my comments still stand, it's just that one of them makes me look stupid.

So what else is new!

nj said...

dustin:

I agree with you and almost anyone else about Sheryl and I obviously agree about Casshern Sins too, so I won't add anything else there.

Someone is actually working on Tytania, I hear, albeit slowly. Apparently it's fairly interesting, beyond some animation oddities that don't really matter for this kind of show, but I'll check it out whenever something is out. I think someone has done a little work on HnK already, but I don't know if that will continue.

But you know...even if it's messy and rushed -which only a blind man would deny- I'd argue Code Geass is still better and, for the purposes of anime as a hobby, entertaining than many other things. I'd like to see more "train wrecks" resembling Code Geass and less being akin to the average Gonzo show. Which doesn't prevent me from liking something completely different, by any means (say, I'm seriously about to start freaking Touch sometime this week/month...talk about a change of pace).

-Nj

Dustin said...

"I'd argue Code Geass is still better and, for the purposes of anime as a hobby, entertaining than many other things."

And I'd agree. If my previous post made it seem like I didn't enjoy the show...uh...my bad. The second season may have blew any semblance of good and logical plotting out of the sky, but I'll be damned if the resulting fireball of death and destruction didn't look spectacular. It's actually pretty impressive that Code Geass always managed to entertain me despite it's many snafus.

Fabulous.

nj said...

dustin:

Then we may indeed agree, for the most part...but actually, one real difference would be that I think there was some semblance of thematic logic at the very end of the entire thing (in other words, the ending was more fitting than people expected it to be)...even if that doesn't overshadow a lot of the madness and hilarity of what came before.

-NJ

Chris Sobieniak said...

Trying to play catch-up as usual!

I guess I feel glad I don't have any real interest in gaming anymore yet I had been interesting in getting a PS3, if only for it's Blu-Ray capabilities.

Being reminded of having talked with Justin Sevakis over those ImaginAsian DVD's, and being told they were still in talks about trying to re-release those a few months back, but I haven't heard anything new since. The only Remi anime you'll ever find would be a foreign language editions on eBay.

Being reminded of an extensive long thread over at Usenet about Toonami's end with the usual questions being asked that had already been covered by you guys til the cows came home already, so I don't have to address any of it, but to ask people to check out the previous podcast where AWO interviewed Steve Harrison about the differences between the anime industry in Japan and the US and the way things work. It explains everything with why things don't always work the way we expect.

Being reminded of having noticed Dragon Ball Z was aired on a station in my hometown around Monday at 8:30AM or whatever, but I wasn't around to seeing it as I was in college when it aired. It wasn't until Toonami first aired DBZ was when I was watching that regularly. Toonami pretty much gave anime that push it needed in the late 90's/early 00's. Playing shows during that afternoon hours was effective and should've been kept.

Thanks to 'scab' for the rundown of the typical anime program template, as I wanted to give it a try to, but that is what differs from how the practice is being done here.

Then Tim Eldred chimed...
Back then, the running length was a solid 22 minutes sans OP and ED. We never did eyecatches or next-ep previews, because the common wisdom was that eyecatches were unnecessary and previews were pointless since syndicators didn't want the obligation of running episodes in order. But that's old news.

In the time since, the length has been adjusted and re-adjusted several times, getting down as low as 18 minutes. Think of it; 12 minutes out of 30 devoted to NOT telling a story. One show I was on (can't remember which one now; might have been MTV's Spider-Man) drifted into the 17-minute zone but then drifted back out before too much damage could be done.


Sooner or later it'll be 14-15 minutes of no story, just you wait!

Anyway, this is why I boycott ALL anime on television no matter how alluring; my sensibilities run 100% against the reformatting of a show from single-break to double-break. First off, you can't do this without cutting or compressing content, and secondly, it disrupts the flow of a story as intended by its creators. As for the network logos and on-screen promos during a show, I only have one word: unconscionable.

I boycotted TV entirely. I can't stand where it has gone to, and feel it needs none of my interest in it now. Those promo/watermark/animation deals have really soiled it.

The sameness that has occurred with cable TV is a joke too. Noticed or instance, some show on History Channel all about trucks roaming the icy roads of the Northwest Territories. What's historic about that? I guess if it had taken place 30 years ago, it would be, but not in the present day. Reality TV has brought down any real talent or creativity that could be put into good use when all they want to do is build another house for an unfortunate family a mile from my house!

And it's total ass when it comes to that magic number 52 they have to abide to as if it's economically unfeasible to go any further. Just as Clarissa stated, demographics come into play too much in how these shows are marketed and why it's a stigma that's hard to break. The only good consolation is the possibility that those execs will be dead in 10-20-30 years after the fact. Even then it would be too late to do anything but piss on their graves.

And yes, what Gerald stated is something I heard similar to what has been happening to British television in recent years where there is this concept that a child is grown up once he's 11 or 12, and wouldn't watch program specific to their age group as the industry has changed their habits dramatically over the past few decades. I can see that with my friend's kids now. One of the daughters already got scolded for wearing a tank top to a buffet we went to a couple days ago, thinking it was OK to wear one, since 'everyone's doing it'. All these kids ever watch is Hannah Montana, High School Musical and other Disney Channel drek that doesn't deserve to have the Disney namesake plastered above the title. When I was 7, I never even considered wanting to act like a teenager at all, but I see it in today's youth who think they need to look right, complain about their looks, or expect a school dance to pop up when they're still in the second grade.

Jetix is seen on Toon Disney, but from what I've heard, they're changing that channel to "Disney XD". Apparently, this will be a channel for boys since the normal Disney Channel is mostly watched by girls now.

I do think it's hard to admit that you still watch cartoons when you're of an adult age. I went through that period in high school where I wasn't sure if I should knock that or not, since it was the early 90's, we had MTV showing Liquid TV and Beavis & Butt-Head and I could still get away with that.

Apart from the promos Toonami did show like that "Space" one, this little gem popped up a few times...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9VN2mxMnzE

I miss those days when cable TV was a tad daring or experimental with how things were done on it.

Sad about To Terra's low sales and what the guy ended up saying that put me in my place (the closet). Don't think anyone would scanilate Shin Takarajima anytime soon so we're stuck!

I hate to admit when I first saw "Jumping" and "Broken Down Film", they were both on the same tape compiled of animated short films produced in the 80's I found at a public library's A/V department, and was the first time the name Osamu Tezuka came to my mind as I hadn't heard of him before or seen anything he has done yet, but it made me interested in what else he did and to look for it. I guess I'm the minority for that sort of thing.

that was a fun Tiny Toons episode (though Bosko and Honey were nothing like what they drawn in it). To throw in a plug, the 6th volume of the Looney Tunes Golden Collection will be coming out soon, featuring Bosko and Buddy cartoons, the highly anticipated WWII material and seldom seen one-shots like Norman Normal!

Well that's all from me news-wise. Have to get back to listening to your reviews!

wildarmsheero said...

>>Eleven groups working on Tales of the Abyss and six on Toradora!

Toradora is a really good romance show that breaks through a lot of cliches in its first two episodes.I was expecting another light Zero no Tsukaima-ish fanservice romp (which is just fine) but instead I got a rather good, well thought out high school romance. So don't diss it.

Anonymous said...

Can we leave the Code Geass/Macross Frontier discussions out of the comments? They have nothing to do with this episode, and you can basically go to any anime website ever created to have a discussion about those crappy shows.

It's a shame we aren't seeing Raoh subs, but I'm glad we have Casshern subs. WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with the world when the new Cobra stuff is being overlooked? Seriously, the anime fansubbing world seems to be as deeply flawed as 95% of the anime industry itself.

YotaruVegeta said...

Isn't it illegal to write a dissertation within the confines of a comment box, Chris Sobieniak?

Daryl Surat said...

The Macross Frontier comments have reminded me that I forgot to post links to my guest spots on Destroy All Podcasts DX where we reviewed Macross Frontier. The post is now updated; please listen to those episodes and post all Macross Frontier discussion over THERE instead of here!

Isn't it illegal to write a dissertation within the confines of a comment box, Chris Sobieniak?

Considering the average length of MY comments, I certainly hope not. For what it's worth, I've never seen even a single episode of Desert Punk. I have however heard Dave and Joel talk about how bad it is, and they watched that entire show.

Toradora is a really good romance show . . . So don't diss it.

Considering that romance is the crappiest genre of storytelling AND an unnecessarily large amount of groups are focusing their efforts towards fansubbing it while the shows I care about are being ignored completely, I think I will be dissing on it even though I've never seen it or even heard of it until it got brought up in these comments.

Color me surprised that Casshern Sins is as popular as it is. There were thousands of people downloading it by the time I saw it was posted, so that one just might be subbed entirely after all. I can't help but notice how much girlier Casshern looks in this new one compared to before, but I kind of doubt that's a significant factor here.

Steve Harrison said...

Another good 'cast, guys (guys and gal? Youse people? whatever).

Don't expect to ever see anything like the ImgainAsian disc thing to happen again. It was a good idea poorly executed, and that's enough to scare the Japanese companies away from even thinking of it again.

The death of Toonami is more significant than anyone knows. It signals the death of the CONCEPT of a programming block that is the ONLY WAY anime can get a shot at 'breaking thru', at creating the next Gundam Wing or DBZ, that beloved, coveted weekday syndication Monday-Friday 'strip' slot of 3-5 PM EST. Yes, Toonami hasn't been that for a few years now but in the TV world of 'track records' and 'templates' and 'playbooks' that is where it is linked.

If Cartoon Network had kept Toonami as a M-F afternoon block, and run One Piece there, it would be the hit that was expected. Case Closed would have done better. Long series NEED that kind of exposure. But of course it's not about entertaining or anything like that, it's all about numbers and demographics and market research and ownership and marketing and aftermarket income flow and blah blah blah. Anime stopped being of interest because it was thought it wasn't providing these things, and it all ties to the pronouncement of Al Kahn stating that 'Japan is over' several years back now.

Because according to 'track records' and 'playbooks' and 'templates' Al Kahn had a BIG HIT with Pokemon so his words carry much much weight. ALL the other failures from 4Kids don't matter. It's like how Carl Macek can still ride the Robotech and Akira ponies until the end of times. ONE NOTABLE SUCCESS is all that matters.

(George Lucas/Star Wars ≠ Episode 1,2,3)

Gundam 00 running on the Sci Fi channel WILL NOT have the ratings that Bandai would hope for. It will NOT be Gundam Wing v2.0 in that regard, even tho it was specifically created to be exactly that. But it might be Bandai doesn't CARE because they can take the placement and wave it in the face of the various Japanese investors that own Bandai stock and shout "LOOK LOOK it's on AMERICAN TV in PRIME TIME we are the success BANZAI! BANZAI BANZAI!" and that helps them in some way.

Won't do jack shit for the DVD sales I wager, and won't create a burning desire for toys, models, figures...

Daryl, that bit about people spoiling the ending of a series when you mention you're starting it, that's just a continuing symptom of the 'instant gratification isn't fast enough' world. Those people likely figure you WANT to know the ending RIGHT AWAY so you can judge how much of the show is 'filler' in getting to that ending. GOD DAMN will people SHUT UP about calling anything that isn't exactly as seen in the manga (or other things) filler! I've seen people complain about 'filler' in 13 episode shows! THIRTEEN EPISODES?! That's not even enough room for plot and chara development how can there be FILLER?! AAGGGGGHHH!

*pant pant pant* pass me one of them packed in a dead seal birds will ya? I need some energy...

Vince said...

The positive factors about MILFBlade were:
- main character / sex object was a woman and not a loli
- it aired uncut on IFC

wildarmsheero said...

I guess I'll just throw in that I saw the first episode of the new Cobra. Pretty good, except for it has some absolutely horrible 3D CG. Like, even worse than in the Golgo 13 TV show (and there it's not so bad)

It's 2008, Japan. Why can't you do 3D well yet? I mean seriously.

Karaoke said...

A slut? Really? Misogyny is hilarious.

Carol said...

I think those "pop rocks and soda" guys might have drunkdialled you.

Or they're just hopped up on pop rocks and soda. And it's three am.
And they're like. . .twelve or something.

YotaruVegeta said...

It seems as if all American television has given up on an afternoon cartoon block, not just CN. I think it was about half a decade or so ago that I read about networks cutting down or removing their afternoon cartoons because they weren't selling.

So we'll probably never see something like Toonami again, unless some channel has the balls to revive the afternoon cartoon.

Chris Sobieniak said...

Considering the average length of MY comments, I certainly hope not. For what it's worth, I've never seen even a single episode of Desert Punk. I have however heard Dave and Joel talk about how bad it is, and they watched that entire show.

Thanks Daryl for not minding the way I write! It's a nasty habit I can't break out of too easily.

Then Steve went...
Don't expect to ever see anything like the ImgainAsian disc thing to happen again. It was a good idea poorly executed, and that's enough to scare the Japanese companies away from even thinking of it again.

"No, don't go TMS! We can work this out, please don't go! NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"

If Cartoon Network had kept Toonami as a M-F afternoon block, and run One Piece there, it would be the hit that was expected. Case Closed would have done better. Long series NEED that kind of exposure.

Again, so many miss-opportunities for things to shine but hadn't. And yes, I wouldn't mind watching those shows if they had been at a sensible time of the day

But of course it's not about entertaining or anything like that, it's all about numbers and demographics and market research and ownership and marketing and aftermarket income flow and blah blah blah.

That's it Steve, pour it on! Kids out here want their programs about obnoxious brats who think they're adults and run things for a change.

Because according to 'track records' and 'playbooks' and 'templates' Al Kahn had a BIG HIT with Pokemon so his words carry much much weight. ALL the other failures from 4Kids don't matter. It's like how Carl Macek can still ride the Robotech and Akira ponies until the end of times. ONE NOTABLE SUCCESS is all that matters.

I guess in the end, Al got the last laugh after all.

Won't do jack shit for the DVD sales I wager, and won't create a burning desire for toys, models, figures...

Welcome back to the 1990's!

YotaruVegeta said...
It seems as if all American television has given up on an afternoon cartoon block, not just CN. I think it was about half a decade or so ago that I read about networks cutting down or removing their afternoon cartoons because they weren't selling.


I can't remember the Big Three having cartoons on during the afternoons or was this back before the 70's? Network affiliates might show something in the afternoons before talk shows and news took over those slots. It was typically indie stations that had those times (remember it often being 2:30-6:00PM where I was) for toonage and what-not, though you had the occasional 'afterschool special' from ABC or CBS.

So we'll probably never see something like Toonami again, unless some channel has the balls to revive the afternoon cartoon.

When hell freezes over.

TJ said...

Wow, you certainly were right on about setting a "going off track" record. But nice job, as usual.

Yeah, Cartoon Network's decision to phase out the anime makes no sense. I just saw a bumper on Adult Swim that said that Bleach was last Saturday's highest rated show. Stupid.

As for the new anime season, I also hate how the one show I actually care about (Tytania) took forever to finally come out. By the way, thanks for informing me about the new Fist of the North Star series; I had no idea that even existed until you mentioned it.

By the way, Daryl, all comments about his girliness aside, what did you think of Casshern Sins? I thought it seemed pretty cool, albeit slightly confusing.

Steve Harrison said...

Networks, the nationals (NBC, CBS, ABC) never had a national afternoon kidvid block, that was always left to the local stations. When Fox was starting up, as one way to cement relationships with affiliates, they offered a pre-packaged kidvid block that negated the need for stations to go out one by one and make the deals with the various syndicators. 2 hours of afternoon programming with kickbacks from national ads AND the ability to sell local ad time? SWEET.

Rumor has it that the Foxblock on weekdays and Sat. did more to sell Fox to unaffiliated stations then the first couple years of primetime programming.

Of course there's still cartoons running on CN during the prime kidvid timeslot, they're just not anime, nor is there any real 'destination' to the block. Looking at my paper's TV listings I just see a block tagged 'Varied Programming' from 3-5, so that means I guess they just run whatever's handy...which means no growing an audience, no building loyality, no creating a DESTINATION for kids running home from school to watch the next episode of....whatever.

How about over at that other cartoon channel? Hm, something called 'you pick' on Nick. Which I guess means that only kids with broadband and computer skills have a voice, huh? Unless the entire 'you pick' idea is a sham.

Disney? 'Varied programming' until 7 PM.

They have ALL forgotten the goldmine of the afternoon kidvid time slot. Dismissed the potential.

Yet it was that time slot that created the Pokemon success. And Power Rangers.

Dragonball Z and Sailor Moon were DEAD because DIC couldn't get broad afternoon syndication for them because the Foxblock and competing Disney Block were taking up the key afternoons in the main markets. left to wither and die at 6 AM. A kid can't enjoy a show like DBZ at 6 AM, mom or dad is bugging them to eat, get dressed, get ready for school....but when CN got those shows for cheap and put them on Monday thru Friday after school...BOOM. Because that's what kids will go for. something to look forward to at the end of the school day, and they can talk to their friends about the next day at recess. Pokemon, Power Rangers. Dragonball Z. Sailor Moon. The pattern is clear and obvious.

I think those programming heads are all just idiots anymore. Clueless idiots.

Michael En said...

R-Gun's where it's at, guys. Metal-Genocider mode forever. Although with all this talk about SRW, I can't help but bring this up. What's with all the hate on Team SRX? Now don't get me wrong, I like ATX a lot, what with Zengar Zonvolt and such. But still if you think about it, the real story in OG1 is follows SRX team more than it does ATX, plus there are some pretty cool characters there. There's Masaki, Ryoto, and of course the totally awesome but asshole Ingram. I guess this kind of also evens out with OG2 being more focused on ATX, what with the main enemy being the same one that was in SRW Impact.
I think that they did the same thing with the two anime. The OVA was more ATX-fanservice, and then Divine Wars was to give the SRX fans time for their characters some time to shine. If they do decide to make an anime series for OG2, it would probably be aimed at ATX characters as well.

Chris Sobieniak said...

Steve has more wisdom to tell...

Networks, the nationals (NBC, CBS, ABC) never had a national afternoon kidvid block, that was always left to the local stations.

As early as I can remember, that was always the case. Though growing up in a smaller market, you often saw network affiliates showing the bulk of kids' programming when no indies or other outlets were present. It was like this in Toledo up to the mid 80's when we got ch. 36 up on running (though ch. 24 started out as an indie before picking up ABC in '70, alleviating the need of the only two VHF stations in town from pick 'n choosing ABC programming to show due to the lesser stations we had). I remember watching the usual Looney Tunes, Pink Panther, He-Man and the likes popping up on ch. 24 during the afternoons right after General Hospital or some soap.

When Fox was starting up, as one way to cement relationships with affiliates, they offered a pre-packaged kidvid block that negated the need for stations to go out one by one and make the deals with the various syndicators. 2 hours of afternoon programming with kickbacks from national ads AND the ability to sell local ad time? SWEET.

Rumor has it that the Foxblock on weekdays and Sat. did more to sell Fox to unaffiliated stations then the first couple years of primetime programming.


Interesting if that's true. I wouldn't have noticed a thing since FOX came into my life from day one, but yeah, it felt like a new chapter opened up when the new Fox Kids block showed up

Of course there's still cartoons running on CN during the prime kidvid timeslot, they're just not anime, nor is there any real 'destination' to the block. Looking at my paper's TV listings I just see a block tagged 'Varied Programming' from 3-5, so that means I guess they just run whatever's handy...which means no growing an audience, no building loyality, no creating a DESTINATION for kids running home from school to watch the next episode of....whatever.

How pathetic. I've seen similar messages on my cable box's OSD too.

How about over at that other cartoon channel? Hm, something called 'you pick' on Nick. Which I guess means that only kids with broadband and computer skills have a voice, huh? Unless the entire 'you pick' idea is a sham.

Hardly paid much attention to what Nick does anymore, but I guess it's all about conforming those to a set ideal that has to be acknowledged.

Disney? 'Varied programming' until 7 PM.

Seems like the entire day is that.

They have ALL forgotten the goldmine of the afternoon kidvid time slot. Dismissed the potential.

All those years I've spent looking up my paper's Sunday TV section are gone. Used to get so damn excited whenever the Fall season showed up. :-(

Yet it was that time slot that created the Pokemon success. And Power Rangers.

Something that's hard to deny (though Pokemon at first was aired around 7:30AM or such where I am).

Dragonball Z and Sailor Moon were DEAD because DIC couldn't get broad afternoon syndication for them because the Foxblock and competing Disney Block were taking up the key afternoons in the main markets. left to wither and die at 6 AM. A kid can't enjoy a show like DBZ at 6 AM, mom or dad is bugging them to eat, get dressed, get ready for school....but when CN got those shows for cheap and put them on Monday thru Friday after school...BOOM. Because that's what kids will go for. something to look forward to at the end of the school day, and they can talk to their friends about the next day at recess. Pokemon, Power Rangers. Dragonball Z. Sailor Moon. The pattern is clear and obvious.

I think those programming heads are all just idiots anymore. Clueless idiots.


Guess kids'll have to get used to using those precious hours for homework.

#1geraldfan said...

I'm pretty sure that scene in Gunsmith Cats Burst, where a dehydrated Riding Bean begs Rally to let him drink her piss, was based on Gerald.

So, Gerald has achieved cosplayer nirvana, whereby his imitation of a character has surpassed the truthfulness of the character itself, and Riding Bean is now merely a depiction of Mr. Rathkolb.

YotaruVegeta said...

:)

Hey Chris, I wasn't a listener when they initially talked Desert Punk, but they don't even give anime they like a full look. I don't think they watched all the volumes of Desert Punk.

I didn't hate it, but it's not like you're missing a damn thing if you skip it. The art was pretty ugly, meaning the actual characters were ugly looking, even the "hot" women.

Brack said...

At the UK con, Amecon in August, United Publications still had a volume each of most, if not all the Imaginasian titles. So they might be worthwhile contacting for getting those titles outside the US. A bit pricey though, which is probably why they still had them. Had it been 20 quid cheaper I'd probably have got the Cat's Eye set.

Derek said...

Another great show guys. Thought I'd tell you what I've heard about the whole gun pointing straight forward thing (from what I've learned working in the movie trailer industry). Basically post-Columbine the gun to the camera restriction started which is why also in movie trailers you won't see them. Or if you do, it cuts RIGHT after or before the gun is level. Watch the trailer for the first Matrix movie, that's one of the last times you ever saw guns pointing straight at the camera.

Loved that Clarissa did Moyashimon, I got a little yeast one sitting on my desk at work. I was kind of disappointed the show stopped being about microbes towards the latter half, but it was still enjoyable. I can't wait for the manga to come out so I can learn more about microbes!

Gooberzilla said...

Just a correction, I'm the one Daryl has heard ranting about Desert Punk. Dave and Joel only watched the first disc. I watched the whole thing. I refused to let that show defeat me, but in watching the whole thing, I lost anyway. :-(

MCBurnett said...

More ramblings and bitching about the inner workings of television. . .

When I was animating on the second season of Kappa Mikey for Nicktoons, we were told there was no chance of season three, regardless of how the show was doing on the air. Kids shows can, in theory, be repeated over and over for a captive audience who has no problem watching just a small handful of episode over and over again. At 52 episodes over two seasons, Kappy Mikey had hit that glorious benchmark where it could be syndicated year round without repeating to a detrimental level. Outside of kid's television, the benchmark is 100 episodes. Just as well that Mikey ended. . .

. . . but then the same thing happened when working on Little Einsteins, a super popular Disney preschooler show. As season two headed towards an end, there seemed to be no interest in continuing a show that they could rerun for free and still push tons of merchandise for. I can understand the realities of it, but it still sucks.

Plus, while I don't think anyone here will be directly upset by this, I am hearing rumors that Nick Jr. will cease all animated product by 2010. No more cartoons for preschoolers. . . just live action shows like Lazytown. A disheartening trend across the industry is this backing away from animation all together.

Clarissa said...

Hey everyone, sorry it took so long but I've got some visuals from Moyashimon up! Enjoy the kiviak scene.

Chris Sobieniak said...

MCBurnett said...
More ramblings and bitching about the inner workings of television. . .

Spill it!

When I was animating on the second season of Kappa Mikey for Nicktoons, we were told there was no chance of season three, regardless of how the show was doing on the air. Kids shows can, in theory, be repeated over and over for a captive audience who has no problem watching just a small handful of episode over and over again. At 52 episodes over two seasons, Kappy Mikey had hit that glorious benchmark where it could be syndicated year round without repeating to a detrimental level. Outside of kid's television, the benchmark is 100 episodes. Just as well that Mikey ended. . .

Probably.

. . . but then the same thing happened when working on Little Einsteins, a super popular Disney preschooler show. As season two headed towards an end, there seemed to be no interest in continuing a show that they could rerun for free and still push tons of merchandise for. I can understand the realities of it, but it still sucks.

Again, magic number 52!

Plus, while I don't think anyone here will be directly upset by this, I am hearing rumors that Nick Jr. will cease all animated product by 2010. No more cartoons for preschoolers. . . just live action shows like Lazytown. A disheartening trend across the industry is this backing away from animation all together.

R.I.P. Nick Jr.

Not that I would care, though if I were working at Nick, I'd rather bring back this classic pre-school gem of my youth (for that time, watching anything animated on that show was worth it for it's creepy foreign nature)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVliKI0px-I

Chris Sobieniak said...

I've just seen that kiviak footage, thanks Clarissa for giving me a reason to be thankful I wasn't born up in Nunavut! ^_^

VZ said...

I wonder if there's a trend of networks all over the U.S.
seemingly to get rid of ANY animation with even a bit of action of violence. Feels like it. Notice how Transformers has been made for a younger preschool audience (LA movie not counting).

At the same time I stopped caring if anything I want to see gets aired on national TV as I just spend my time watching the anime I want on DVD or torrents.

Gerald said...

I apologize, first, for not getting those screen caps everyone, I'm sure, was so looking forward to, up earlier. I also apologize for getting these screen caps up in the first place since it almost turns this episode in to pornography, ALMOST!

STEVE HARRISON'S INNER MONOLOGUE said...

CHRIS SOBENIAK STOP RESPONDING TO PARAGRAPHS WITH SHORT PHRASES THAT AMOUNTS TO LITTLE MORE THAN "ME TOO" BECAUSE THAT PRACTICE DIED WITH AOL.COM'S SUPERIORITY OVER THE INTERNET

RAAAAAAAGE


PS: PLANNED FAILURE MODEL

Chris Sobieniak said...

gomen nasai...

reggaenights said...

Funny how the Witchblade character design still features those damn annoying "moe" bunny ears motif in the hair design. I guess it's for people into milfs as well as little girls? Or perhaps milfs who are also little girls, much like that new Japanese film "Kodomo no Kodomo."

And, of course, Kiviak: it's what's for dinner!

Steve Harrison said...

Maaaaaan, that doesn't even come close to sounding like me. And I'm not smart enough to use bold tags.

People just too into hatin' because they fear my knowledge. Word.

YotaruVegeta said...

I would like to be totally open and say that what I've read of the original Witchblade wasn't bad, and I'd probably watch the Witchblade anime and not hate it for being shamelessly "adult."

I should be beaten for that.

Karaoke said...

Yeah, how dare they make Transformers a cartoon for kids. I mean, it's not like it started that way or anything.

Eggo said...

...Okay, I'm gonna go watch Moyashimon now. That kind of quirkiness is right up my alley. Thanks loads for the rec, Clarissa!

The MILFblade review was lulzy, Gerald - keep it up.

CANNOT WAIT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE. I just read the first volume of Dororo and loved it; and yes, those covers are pretty dumb. And fuck yes JoJo's. :D

tlsmith1963 said...

When I listened to the Moyashimon review, I kept thinking of the guy on the Bizarre Foods show (on the Travel Channel) who eats all sorts of disgusting things. Finally, an anime series for the Bizarre Foods guy--Moyashimon!

Ceva13 said...

Another great show guys.

Gerald was dead on with his Witchblade review. I Netflixed the show a month back because someone told me it wasn't as bad as it looked, and I pretty much had the same reaction that Gerald did.

Clarissa has peaked my interest with her Moyashimon review. I'm going to check that out as soon as I can.

Strait Jacket sounds like it's worth the $15 bucks it's probably going to cost.

Also your rant at the beginning of the show made me feel better about myself and my large pile of unplayed video games. Thanks guys.

Gilles Poitras said...

Moyashimon

Finally something that shows me I have reached my limit on foods I am willing to try. Before this review I would have said I'll try anything that is an actual food eaten by people. Tho' professor Itsuki's description makes it tempting.

Why would they eat something like this? Well famine makes people try many things they would otherwise not touch, and then they refine their techniques.

By the way Sawaki';s family does not produce yeast (Saccharomyces cerevisiae) but koji (Aspergillus oryzae) which is used to not only make sake but also: soy sauce, miso, mirin, shochu and natto. As soon as the manga starts coming out I'll do an entry for it in the Anime Companion Supplement. 'Til then I'll stick to yokai, sex and religion .

http://www.koyagi.com/ACPages/ACmain.html

lbrevis said...

Good show as usual. The only thing that interests me about Witchblade is that Mamiko Noto is cast in a role that isn't a cute girl or a lesbian. Does she sound at all different than normal?

Just to throw a random recommendation at you, have you guys watched Detroit Metal City? It's the first show in a long time that's made me actually laugh aloud. Each episode is less than 15 minutes so it's not a big time investment. Plus with 10 rapes a second you get the most bang for your proverbial buck... yeah, that was bad.

YotaruVegeta said...

lbvrevis isn't kidding. Check out this pic:

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9356/dmc07towerrapeqm5.jpg

Clarissa said...

gilles -

Thanks, when I was double-checking things online it was a bit confusing as to whether it was a yeast or what.

lbrevis -

Gerald and I have been watching DMC, and I've read about four volumes of the manga. It's definitely great stuff.

As to Mamiko Noto, I didn't watch very much of MILFblade but I don't remember her doing anything really different with her voice. Maybe a tad less whispery but that's about it I think.

Anonymous said...

I can't wait for the Ressentiment review. I read the four volumes onemanga.com had online, and holeeeeee shit...

Louie said...

Heard Ressentiment mentioned a few times now...It never got completely scanlated, did it?

VZ said...

I thought Witch Blade was a pretty decent series. I for the most part prefer Gonzo's fanservice comedy shows like Rosario+Vampire (really stupid but funny), Strike Witches and Vandread over their titles designed to appeal to the western market like Samurai 7, Speed Grapher and Desert Punk (I refuse to see Afro Samurai).

I did watch Cyber City Oedo today and agree with Daryl that it's probably the best Kawajiri anime. Kind of needed fanservice and more gore if only those are the staple of the OVA. Benten was the best character though.

Ceva13 said...

I like Benten the best as well VZ. I think he gets a bad rap, because he looks like a chick. He's the most capable member of the trio.

I have to disagree with your feelings about Vandred. I thought is was pretty cool at first, but it crapped out near the end.

I also picked up Strait Jacket and I liked it. The character designs where dull, but the animation was nice. I don't know if I'd still like it if they made it into a series tho.....

PopRocksAndSodaCastMember said...

Thanks for posting our (outdated) promo! It really means a lot to us, and we hope to hear from you guys in the future!

Oh and Daryl, just to let you know, our cast member Nybor has a bit of a crush on you =D

Vince said...

I just read a few chapters of Ressentiment. Wow, what a cautionary otaku tale.

astrange said...

If you want a cautionary tale watch Chäos;head (or however they decided to spell it). It's pretty mindblowing, so it's too bad it's going to suck.

Shady McTintington said...

Jet-X is almost exactly what fox kids was plus some crappy new stuff. Fox kids doesn't exist anymore, if memory serves, and Moving Code Gease might have been to promote the video section of their site.

YotaruVegeta said...

(It's "Jetix" and Code Geass" BTW)
I like the new show Jetix has, ATOM. I don't know what else they play, besides every superhero cartoon there ever was.

Chris Sobieniak said...

Speaking of being obligated to watching commercials, I personally hate being told about using rewards cards at places I don't normally buy more than a few cheap things at (like a gas/food mart nearby). It's a nuisance to be reminded a lot, but apparently it's their business and all the other typical rules that apply to employees in the establishment. We just have to face the music.

Jonathan said...

Gerald

If what you say is true, and that kids want to grow up, and watch live action, then WHY HASN'T POWER RANGERS GOTTEN BETTER!!!

HOLY SHIT did it get bad, I grew up with it, and transformers, and it has just gotten worse over the past few years, let's say four. But good sites being that the executive producer that was making it shit is gone now.

But this shows just how much the people making it effects the quality. I guess it goes with the talk of what CN did to Code Geass(how ever you spell it). If the guy at top wants to do something, he will, whether or not it effects the show itself.

But now I am glad to see just what happened to those show like Teen titans, Who's popularity I guess would be due to the massive amount of naked raven pictures.

And Daryl, Ben10 is pretty good, better than a lot of the other stuff, and the new show is a lot better.

And when are you going to Review gems like "Space Transformers" or other hits like "Protector of Galaxy"

And for a few episodes back, I saw the Cowboy Bebop movie in theatres, Drove four hours to see it in Jacksonville, and it was very worth it, very much so, and I can't watch the movie without thinking of Pink Floyd, and vice verse.

And I guess I am in the minority of anime fans who like sports. I can keep track of Transformers characters at the same time as keep track of the BCS standings of College Football. Go michigan, just not this year, fuck rich rodriguez.

And for video games, I got the Gundam 00 DS game back at Jacon, it is very good and I recommend it for fans of robot fans, gundam fans, and action shooting fans.

OK, got to go get more super sentai vids, How many more mechs can they put together, who know, I've got to know, (they're at 12 right now btw).

YotaruVegeta said...

The problem with power rangers is that after using dinosaurs, cars, animals and whatnot, the ideas start running dry. I tried to watch the newer Power Rangers, and it's just a weak attempt to keep that series going.

Karaoke said...

Dude, have you tried watching the old Power Rangers? It was always bad.

But I mean, I like bad movies. It's almost like that, but let's not kid ourselves. The acting is wretched, the plots purile, and the special effects unconvincing at best.

Karaoke said...

*puerile

YotaruVegeta said...

Well, I'm not comparing Power Rangers to anything else, but I've watched way more Power Rangers than someone should, child or not, and I was more interested in the original story than some of the others that followed.

I think that the color scheme of the original matched the characters in a way I thought made sense, albeit kind of in a racist way ;)


Yellow Ranger, RIP.

Steve Harrison said...

I've come to think that if there's a decline in quality for Power Rangers (and recall, it's a show *designed* for 8 year olds, not most of us) it can be traced directly to Toei taking a more active part in creating product that can more easily be 'Americanized', the partnership between Saban and Toei and now Disney and Toei.

And that HAS to be one of those wet dreams of any Japanese company, to be a PARTNER with DISNEY. That's the big time. That is SERIOUS BREAKING THRU IN AMERICA, man!

Never mind that Power Rangers has been in decline ever since Fox pulled the plug on their weekday FoxKids kidvid block. but that whole thing was spelled out earlier.

I mean, I dunno, I don't get to see much 'raw' Sentai stuff anymore but I see pics of the toys of the current show and holy crap, it looks like the cast of Pixar's 'Cars' is the star. (which should not be a surprise as Cars did HUGE in Japan, and is still a strong toy license here in the US) and I am having a really hard time trying to figure how Disney is going to...um...Morph... that show into the next Power Rangers.

Sentai shows seemed to have a cycle pre-Power Rangers. They would be a little light and silly, then get darker and more serious, more mature from year to year, then they'd start all over again. If you compare Jetman to Jyuranger it seems night and day.

(and again, recall, created for 8 year olds. Cup Ramen monster. Spotlight Armadillo monster. Traffic Light monster. pretty silly, yes.)

Jetman opens with some astonishing violence, leading to the death of the lead hero's girlfriend. (yeah, I know what happens later, but one didn't at the start of the series). Jyuranger opens with a trip to a mysterious planet that has entered the Solar System and a couple of hapless Astronauts pop open a big jar where various creatures emerge, and the 'mentor' of the heros hears of this with a comical 'growing ear' that catches the reports.

I won't go into a blow-by-blow of the entire episodes, but the overall tone of Jetman is dark, menacing, melodramatic turned to 11, the antagonists have varied motivations and agendas, and the design work is just impressive as all get out. Jyuranger, you just get the feeling that the antagonists are ANNOYING.

And the funny thing is, Watching Jetman, there's a feeling that Toei had hopes of selling it to the US, it's just a feeling about the look of everything, an attempt to make it NOT look like cheap cardboard buildings and ratty rubber monsters (yet so much about the series is VERY Japanese and would be a hard, hard sell in translating for TV), while Jyuranger has a very generic, minimalist look which obviously made it more appealing to Saban for conversion. Plus dinosaurs were still 'hot' thanks to 'Jurassic Park'. KIds always love dinosaurs.

And the 'kiddy to serious' cycle seems to continue. 'Dekaranger' (turned into PR:SPD) seemed to be close to the tone of Jetman, then it went 'Harry Potter' the next year...

Not that I really know that much anymore, I just look at the toys.. :)

(and wow, I used to think 'Janperson' was crazy stupid but holy cats there's some REALLY bleak stuff going on in that show! No wonder Saban went with B-Fighter)

Also, Power Rangers SPD? Yellow Ranger, smoking hot. I mean damn.

YotaruVegeta said...

I think that they could put on a costumed hero, a la Masked Rider, in primetime on something like the CW and it would be a success.

No, I don't mean like fucking Smallville, either. Something more in the line of Supernatural

Jonathan said...

Steve:

I have to admit, looking back and recently watching what I can of Zyuranger,(why the hell can't a group sub the whole thing), It is very silly in my opinion, and it all started with the growing ear. But I have started watching the whole sentai footage, and started with Geki Ranger, went on to Dekaranger, (I am still about half way through)loved it. Started watching Power Ranger SPD, Holy crap, this is like the power rangers I grew up on. Now their was a time when i wanted to halt the SPD for a little, just cause I have a toy in the mail and am waiting for it. So I started watching another show, Power Ranger Operation Overdrive, Holy Crap, if it wasn't for the hot chick, I would have never watched this show to ten episodes. So I said, wow, they effed this up bad, so I watched the sentai show. JESUS CHRIST, it was still a horrible show, and it is without a hot chick, I didn't even make it five minutes.

Geki Ranger was a little childish, just by one character, but it got a lot better by the end, power ranger version is really bad, but like I said, the Main Executive Producer, is leaving, leaving Koichi Sakamoto.

Now I know about the series this year, I said it looks like a Fisher Price robot, but after watching more of it, it got a TON better, they really hit me where I like it. I have to say I am a collector, and I love bigger megazords, and this year they are going tops. They have four, FOUR independent megazords that combine, and with the final formation (as of now), it is freakin huge, the monster comes up to it's nuts. And NOW, the story is taking a much darker turn, possible killing off a main power ranger. They have three hot chicks, one being the main baddie, and a ranger, who's actor is a fan favorite, from Kamen Rider, ala Kick Hopper fame.

Jesus I can write tonight for some reason.



Going On.

YotaruVegeta:

So odd of you to mention Kamen Rider, on CW.

February 2009, Kamen Rider Dragon Knight on CW saturdays, I personally would love to have it in prime time cause I hate getting up early, but we will never see it. So far from looking at pilots, promos, trailers, and interviews, this show it looking like it will kick the major ass we have been waiting for. Cast includes some bigger names that you would not think would work on a show like this, I don't know a lot of the names, or can really spell any of them right now, but it will include fan hero Mark Musashi.






So all in all next year will be a very trying year for hero shows. With Power Ranger RPM starting possibly a new era of power rangers, and Kamen Rider Dragon Knight bringing it back old school with the original power rangers crew, and insane stunt teams.

exedore said...

For those looking to relive their memories of early US Power Rangers, there's season boxsets of the first three years (~60 eps each) available from your German importer of choice for quite reasonable prices. I actually got the first set in today and in some ways it's quite nice - they offer you the choice of menus and show audio in German or English (though you only get extras in German) and while it's 10 episodes a disc the runtime is only around 21 minutes per episode so it's reasonable for a DVD9. I need to check in a better player than VLC to see if episode titles are done as alternative angles or if they did the retarded thing and encode each episode in full for German and English editions.

On the other hand, the encoding's not great, it's been put through a PAL transfer, and at least some of the episodes came from the US broadcast masters and have the closed caption logo in the corner. And yes, these are legit discs sold on the high street and have the Jetix (read: Disney's action imprint) logo all over the packaging. But it's a lot of nostalgia value for $40

VZ said...

I've read that they DID try at first to use Jetman as the basis for Power Ranger but it didn't click with the kids in the test run so they went with Zyuranger, which I think was for the better since that had one of the best mecha design ever IMO. I always loved how ALL the dinosaurs combined to form god basically.

Jonathan said...

http://www.freewebs.com/powerrangerplanet/

They have good quality downloads of all power rangers up to bate, as well as extras and other shows from the era.

YotaruVegeta said...

Masked Rider on the CW, for real? I'll give it a shot.

VZ said...

When watching the first half of Straight Jacket (I sleep early), I noticed how the main female with the glasses looked like a Satoshi Urushihara design. When checking for the character design on ANN, I saw that he worked on Growlanser which of course was done by Urushihara. I'm VERY obsessive and observant towards character designs.

Anonymous said...

Giviak...
Alaskan and Canadian artic, apparently.

http://www.everything2.net/index.pl?node=giviak

Love the quote there "Bring the giviak to a party. Guaranteed fun"

Old Nasty said...

I was wondering,is the AWO team going to be at Anime Super Con this year?

Dan Bellucci said...

Say Clarissa, Mangaupdates.com lists quite a few series to Ishikawa Masayuki's name.

Hitokiri Ryuume
Junketsu no Maria
Kataribe
Shuukan Ishikawa Masayuki

http://www.mangaupdates.com/authors.html?id=3434

Sorry if this was already mentioned further up the comments page.

subatomic brainfreeze said...

I've been DVRing Gurren Lagann for a second viewing, and I absolutely loathe the way Sci-Fi handles... basically everything, now that I think about it. Running the OP in fast-forward, cutting to ads every four minutes, fading out mid-sentence to get to one of five commercial breaks, and that last slap in the face where they pop up a giant ad over the big fight scene. The more I think about it, the less I understand why the hell I'm watching the show so poorly presented. I guess this is what I get for supporting the show I like?

In summary: UGH ARGH YRRGH CHRIST FUCK

YotaruVegeta said...

I hate the Sci-fi Channel up until the point that they actually have embraced anime at all. They have one point over CN, which now thinks of anime as its "secret shame."

VZ said...

I'm sorry to ask but when's the next ep coming guys?

Been a month now.

Anonymous said...

It's gonna be another month because you aaaassssked!

posionedwill1103 said...

hello
ok so my name is nick and i would like 2 just say that ur right about cartoon network but i would like 2 also add something 2 that about the shows that they r showing cause they used 2 have the best shows ever then they started ruining it by removeing anime and by puting things like chowder and flapjack on tv . there is also adult swim which is almost unwatchable beacuse of sunday WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH AMERICA!!!!

exedore said...

"ok so my name is nick and i would like 2 just say that ur right about cartoon network but i would like 2 also add something 2 that about the shows that they r showing"

Holy crap, Prince is listening to AWO!

And in the interim between episodes I finally listened to Daryl on DAPDX re: Macross F. It's a lot easier to like Ranka when she's given forced enemas and sucker-punched by the drummer from DMC. Oh the power of doujin.

YotaruVegeta said...

poisoned will, I have to be in defense of these non-anime shows. I tutor kids, and they love stuff like chowder and flapjack, but they love anime just as much. Don't take it out on shows for CN management decisions.

bdd said...

1st off, is clarissa single?


anyway, most sentai/ranger shows are pretty good, granted its true older stuff is better than the new ones.
but the new power ranger showing now is ok, its not like they should be doing any drama all the time its supposed to be fun. hell even the current sentai is not so serious, i mean look at the ending credits wtf is that?


the new kamen rider for the u.s is based on kamen rider ryuki. which is a really nice show and the story is slick.